This is rare. Debra and I don't take a ton of pictures just the two of us. We never remember to ask someone to take our picture when we are out. So when we get a good one, its cool. This was taken years back at a party for her Mom. We both look good in the picture, even though I was still pretty hefty at that time. But I'll take it, because we both are smiling nice. Usually one of us will have one eye closed or something going on.